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What a day today, with widespread 60-80 mph wind gusts reported. Just incredible wind for winter. Fortunately winds should continue slowly dying down for the rest of the night tonight.

Just a quick summary of the highlights of the video blog. Not much new to report from the last entry.

Precip arrives tomorrow evening (Thursday) and will start as a mix of sleet and freezing rain I think. I highly doubt we see much, if any snow at the onset. Freezing rain will quickly change to plain rain everywhere. The Mohawk Valley and Otsego County will hold onto the frozen stuff for a couple hours, so a light glaze is posible, before it changes to plain rain. Adirondacks, you will hold onto the frozen rain for awhile longer, and I suspect advisories will be posted there tomorrow, for potentially up to a quarter inch of ice build up. Even those areas should go over to plain rain though, toward sunrise on Friday. Temps on Friday may push mid to upper 40s again. I wouldn't be shocked to see another 50 pop up. Moral of the story? Snowmelt continues. Even some of the bigger piles may be disappearing by Friday.

Then, we begin the rebuilding effort.

Minor lake effect is possible Friday night and Saturday morning. I don't think it will amount to much, but a fresh coating in the snow recreation paradise up north is possible.

Then comes the Monday storm. Right now it's the Euro vs. everyone for the most part. The Euro says we take a direct hit from a fairly moderate snowstorm, and at least 6" would be likely. The other models skirt the storm out to sea, but hit us with a much weaker clipper, depositing a fresh couple inches, with colder air. Then we'd get some lake effect behind that, but as has been the case this year in many instances, that might be quick to exit, as milder air tries to build in for the middle of next week. Looks like a return to normal to below normal temperatures for mid-January, followed by perhaps a minor warm up toward the end of the month, with seasonably mild temperatures possible. Stay tuned.

Much more detail in the video blog below!

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Becky (West Leyden):

Matt... I think the Euro has a good track record with this kind of event. Therefore, I think scenario 1 is the most likely of the two to happen.

Posted January 9th at 9:16 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

The Canadian had some good ideas the last few 00Z runs but then it loses them.Hopefully the GFS comes around tonight.

Posted January 9th at 9:24 PM
Jimmy DeFazio New Hartford:

Seasonal Snowfall total at 49.45 inches.

Posted January 9th at 10:42 PM
Matt Lanza:

Thanks, Jimmy...I updated the totals the last three nights, and we have everyone up to date!

Posted January 9th at 11:04 PM
Matt Lanza:

Interesting nugget. We're 40 at Rome right now...the low for the day. Believe it or not, we still are above the all-time record high low temp for the date, which is 36 degrees, so we may end up breaking another record before the day is done.

Posted January 9th at 11:09 PM
Matt Lanza:

And before I go too wild, I will be updating the local area temperature web page tonight/tomorrow, organizing links by region and probably adding some Syracuse area stations, and perhaps some Albany area ones as well.

Posted January 9th at 11:11 PM
mike m(binghamton):

the gfs will just not bring this storm up the coast. i was hoping for a westward trend from the gfs to go along with the euro.

Posted January 9th at 11:45 PM
Becky (West Leyden):

Matt... Did Oneida County break the record low?
Our winds have falling back now their 10-20 mph

Posted January 10th at 12:41 AM
Matt Lanza:

Looks like we hit 39! Another one bites the dust. More fun tomorrow.

Posted January 10th at 1:05 AM
JmD-Fonda:

Well, I've lurked here long enough and have finally decided to let you know how awesome this blog is. Without revealing all the unnecessary details about how I found you, let's just say I'm sooooo glad I did....quite some time ago, almost since it's inceLption. As you know, Fonda is located almost half way between Utica and Albany (actually a bit closer to Albany). Most of our services come from that area on a regional basis. Just thought I'd let you know I check both cities-based information when it comes to weather and it may come as no surprise to you but you guys are right a lot more of the time than the others. I commend your accomplishments of this not so small feat. Keep up the good work....

Posted January 10th at 11:13 AM
Rob(whitesboro):

Finally the GFS brings the storm up the coast.Good for a moderate snowfall for most.Hopefully it will trend a little further west.Looks like a big tornado outbreak is about ready to explode in the south.

Posted January 10th at 11:15 AM
Matt Lanza:

JmD: Thank you so much! Feel free to post more often now that you've broken the ice! :)

As an aside...just got done perusing the 12Z GFS and it has shifted significantly closer to the coast. By no means would it be a big storm for us, but it does sweeten the pot a bit regarding a potentially snowy Monday. We'll check the Canadian and Euro later today. Stay tuned.

Posted January 10th at 11:16 AM
casual weather observer:

I hope this "storm" misses us enough to only give us an inch or two. Most of the people that I know prefer this warmer weather. Thank you el Nino!

Posted January 10th at 2:23 PM
Jeff:

Alot of Tornado Warnings in the south

Posted January 10th at 3:00 PM
Matt Lanza:

Quick look at the Euro is not great news for a heavy snow. If anything, it appears the Euro has trended toward the GFS a bit and the GFS toward the Euro. Unfortunately, if they meet halfway, that won't lead to a big storm for us. Time will tell.

Posted January 10th at 3:34 PM
Andy(Forestport):

Matt

any chance at lake effect upon departure?

Posted January 10th at 4:07 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

FREEZING RAIN ADVISORIES in effect for Oneida, Southern Herkimer, Fulton, and Montgomery Counties until Friday morning. About a tenth of an inch of ice accumulation is expected. In addition, FLOOD WATCHES have also been posted for Oneida, Montgomery, and Southern Herkimer coutnies until Saturday Morning as a combination of snowmelt and heavy rain will lead to significant rises on rivers and streams and a few could spill out of their banks.

Posted January 10th at 4:16 PM
Matt Lanza:

The freezing rain advisories tonight are warranted, but I'm not convinced we see more than a brief period of it. Utica south and west should be fine. Otsego County valleys, Herkimer County valleys and eastern Oneida County to Old Forge should see limited icing, with less than 0.10" total accumulation, which could make roads a bit slippery, but probably not problematic. Adirondacks will see longer icing, with interior Hamilton County probably seeing the most significant. Up to 0.25" is possible there. The rain will be the bigger issue, with some locally heavy downpours possible between 7 AM and Noon tomorrow. Some areas may clock in with over 1.25", which would lead to isolated minor flooding.

As for the LES potential beyond the Monday storm...there isn't much. A few snow showers will remain, but winds are going to be busy aloft, shifting around, so we'll never have time to get anything organized. However, the motherload of cold air will be dropping south through Canada and into the northern Plains by next Thursday. Should that align the right way, I could see the potential for some significant LES by next weekend. Obviously, that's a long way off, but stay tuned.

Posted January 10th at 4:25 PM
Mike(Leonardville):

Hopefully the models go back to where they were at and the storm monday will give us a few flurries.

Posted January 10th at 4:44 PM
ken:

matt,there is still plenty of time for storm to track more to the west which can give us the heavy snow.i mean it is way to early to have a good read on which way it will track?

Posted January 10th at 5:10 PM
Matt Lanza:

Ken: Anything is possible, but in order to get this to happen, we need the branches of the jet stream to come together (or phase, as we say). And honestly, at this point, I don't see this happening. That's not to say it won't, but given the current data, it's unlikely.

As a note, the GFS was an outlier today, as most of its ensemble members take the storm flatter and out to sea, as compared to the GFS itself, which as many of you know, hits us with steadier snow.

Posted January 10th at 5:27 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

Down to 29 degrees here. I really hope the Monday storm trends back towards the coast and slams us with a good dumping. This weather right now is just not good for those that rely on the snow and cold for a living. I would imagine ski areas are going to be in bad shape if we get any more rain and warm temps. It is winter, not spring, so it should be cold and snowy for those of us who want snow.

Posted January 10th at 7:05 PM
Mr La Nina:

With all of my surprises this winter, maybe it's time to find a new line of work (hint, hint).....LOL!

Posted January 10th at 7:24 PM
Matt Lanza:

Michael: I'm not worried about us turning colder, so at the very least, snow making will become much easier at ski resorts this time next week. Temperatures may go solidly below normal by next weekend. Whether we get any LES or widespread snow, that is up in the air still, pun intended.

Also to add, I've done a bit more work on the current conditions page on wktv.com with all the personal weather stations. Click here to view it. I've organized local ones by region, and I've added a Syracuse area section below our area. I'll also be adding some Albany, High Peaks, Downstate and WNY ones as well.

Posted January 10th at 7:35 PM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

I know this is off topic and has been asked before but I am looking at dropping 300-400 dollars on a weather station but not sure what ones work well. I am looking for something that is wireless and that works well in sunlight considering I dont have much shade. I also want something that I can record all the information into my home computer for records. I am looking for more than one idea soo I can comparison shop for one. Thanks guys and gals!

Posted January 10th at 8:02 PM
Mike S (Port Leyden):

Tony from CNYWeather.com uses a Davis Vintage Pro 2 Wireless weather station. If you look at his site, you can find all records since the station started operating.

For all of his database functions, he uses Weather Display, link at his site for the software.

Posted January 10th at 8:22 PM
Tony from CNYWeather.com (Westmoreland, NY):

My email address is on my site Jeff. any questions feel free to ask. My VP2 is great. I got that when my wife got the new house. Good trade :-)

Posted January 10th at 8:25 PM
Mike S (Port Leyden):

I would like to get a weatherstation. But webcam will probably come first.

I'd also like to find a program that I can load all the area's official records into.

Posted January 10th at 8:27 PM
Tony from CNYWeather.com (Westmoreland, NY):

If you get a webcam, get a Quick Cam Pro for notebooks. Picture is incredible. Plus it works with Vista unlike my Microsoft Live Cam :-(

Posted January 10th at 8:45 PM
Becky (West Leyden):

Jeff.... I also own the Davis 6152 Vantage Pro 2 Wireless. The 6152 is pricey but worth every penny. I feel Davis makes the best weather stations you can buy.What I like about it is its Line of sight range is 1000'. therfore, you can place it almost any place you want. Two other great things about it is it updates every two and a half seconds, because of this your viewing live time. also it runs on solar power.

Posted January 10th at 8:46 PM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

OK so Davis looks good, anyone know if any other systems run on solar??? Batteries are expensive!!!!!

Posted January 10th at 9:26 PM
Matt Lanza:

Here's one for you...

Since 2006, between January 4 and January 12, we have broken a total of 6 record highest low temperatures and 4 record highs.

Since 2000, we have set 7 record highs in the full month, 5 record lows, 12 records for highest low temperatures, and 7 records for lowest high temperature.

Talk about a decade of January variability!

Posted January 10th at 9:29 PM
Matt Lanza:

What's more... since 1995, 53% of all warm temperature records in Utica have been broken. And since 1995, 41% of ALL (both warm and cold) temperature records have been broken. It's been an extreme period of volatility in the weather department since 1995.

Posted January 10th at 9:45 PM
Bets~West Leyden:

Hows West Leyden looking for the over night or morning commute?Looking ,,, at the map looks like were out of the icing,,Impossiable we never miss,,,THESE GREAT EVENTS,

Posted January 10th at 9:59 PM
Becky ( West Leyden):

Betsi... I don't think it will be too bad. The temperature has gone up 2 degrees over the last hour and a half. We might be close to 32 when it starts.

Posted January 10th at 10:31 PM
Matt Lanza:

Temperatures did not fall very far tonight, with most people bouncing back to 30 or better. What I envision happening: Rain begins, changes over to freezing rain in most locations, as the rain cools the air. Then, as warmer air/lighter precipitation returns after 2-3 AM, we change back to plain rain. Again, the toughest place to do this will be in the Adirondacks. Rain will be heavy after midnight for a bit, before lightening up. It will then pick back up toward daybreak tomorrow.

Posted January 10th at 10:49 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

matt, is the coastal storm looking more like a no go....or is it still too early to know for sure?

Posted January 10th at 10:55 PM
Matt (HP):

Jeff,

I just bought the Lacrosse WS 2308. I like it so far. It can be completely battery powered or run off a power cord. You can go wireless or with the cable they give you that is 32 feet long. I have the anamometer up and given where I put it. It works well. The data recording is cool too. The only downpoint is you have to click the display button to toggle between outdoor and indoor temp. However when the computer is on. You can view everything through a window on the computer. You can also set intervals for when you want data recorded. So you dont have to have your computer on all the time to download data. It stores it to the station and when you turn the computer and start the program on the computer it downloads all the data sets.

If you have more questions just ask. I got mine on Amazon.com for 99 dollars

Posted January 10th at 10:58 PM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: Today's model runs are not encouraging. The 00Z GFS is coming in a bit further east than its 12Z counterpart. By no means can we write it off, but...I'm not getting excited.

Posted January 10th at 11:02 PM
Matt (HP):

Jeff, I forgot. One major downfall is at wireless it only updates every 120 seconds when wind speed is below 22 mph. If you hook up to the temp sensor with the 32 ft cable then it updates every 8 seconds.

Posted January 10th at 11:02 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

31.5 degrees here. Just took a look at Albany's forecast discussion and they said that icing in the Adirondacks may be more extensive than they first thought. The way I took it was if temps up that way don't rise as fast, they would have to consider putting warnings out up that way. Another nice little tidbit in the discussion said that even if the track of the Monday storm on the 12z GFS is further south and east, enough moisture would be left over along with the great lakes system to at least give us some "measurable" snow.

Posted January 10th at 11:09 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

matt, i noticed that a few of the 21 utc SHORT-RANGE ENSEMBLE models still hit central and eastern NY with a decent snowstorm...so as you said cant write it off yet...im very interested to see what the Canadian, euro, and ukmet have to say tonight...if they trend back toward the coast from their 12z run positions then that could be a strong signal the models are still confused as to what will happen. however if they trend even further offshore that will be a pretty good sign we are more then likely not looking at a major snowstorm.

Posted January 10th at 11:09 PM
Becky (West Leyden):

Were up to 31.8 Might make it up a little more before it starts.
Nothing is reaching the ground yet.

Posted January 10th at 11:20 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

Just took a walk and checked out the East Canada Creek. Still no real significant rises from the snowmelt. I would say that it is maybe a quarter bankfull. Still has alot of room available for runoff and rainfall. I'm thinking about putting my rain gauge back out for this one. If we get what they are saying in the flood watch (1-3") of rain, we could start having some issues.

Posted January 10th at 11:31 PM
Bob (Cooperstown):

Jeff, I have an Oregon Scientific WMR-968 It runs on 3 sources of power; solar, a rechargeable cell via the solar and AA batteries as the final back up. I use lithum and I have to replace them about year and a half or so sometimes longer. It has a couple of quirks as they all do ie: the rain gauge converts the rain falling to inch per hour instead of what fell. However, 24 hours after the event it then will tell the total how much fell. The rain gauge does have some variablity in accuracy. I paid 300.00 about 6 years ago. If you play around on the net I have seen it for around 150.00 especially on Oregons Factory outlet site. I believe that model has been discontinued. Sideline: they have an outstanding Technical Service dept. Who will talk you thru any problems.I once was on the roof on a cordless and they talked me thru a problem. He even waited for me to get the ladder out. I reccommend grounding the anemometer with a dedicated ground. As it spins it can build up static electricity and a charge, it kept needing to be reset. Grounding the mast it was on was not enough.Once I added the grounding wire it did the trick. But if you have enough cash: go with a Davis

Posted January 10th at 11:35 PM
Becky (West Leyden):

Temperature is up to 32.6 no precipitation is falling yet

Posted January 11th at 12:10 AM
Becky (West Leyden):

starting to get a little sleet/rain mix. The temp is 33.4

Posted January 11th at 12:35 AM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

34.2 degrees with plain rain here. Any glimmer of hope with the latest model runs?

Posted January 11th at 1:04 AM
Matt Lanza:

GFS says clipper and nothing more...lots of light snow. But I have to say...the model is definitely pile-driving Arctic air into the Plains by day 7. That's going to make it here by next weekend. The lakes will become active...now the question is does it hammer someone or will this have NNW winds. Not going to be able to resolve that one until next week sometime.

Posted January 11th at 1:16 AM
Matt (HP):

Jeff,

I was actually going to mention Oregon Scientific as well. I saw one on Amazon.com that looked really good for about 260

Posted January 11th at 1:21 AM
randy Vitullo:

Matt, Light snow meaning 1 to 3 or 2 to 4? Or, just the trace to an inch?

Posted January 11th at 5:51 AM
randy Vitullo:

To the CASUAL WEATHER OBSERVER: That would be La Nina....

Posted January 11th at 5:53 AM
kurt (Miami, FL):

I know there are a few websites which show that the snowpack is officially gone from the Cooperstown area, but I would like to find out (from anyone who knows); how much snow is left around there, as far as wooded areas and remnants of piles and things like that; is there anything, at all??
Thanx!

Posted January 11th at 6:37 AM
Tony from CNYWeather.com (Westmoreland, NY):

Jeff, I've only replaced my bateries 1 time in almost 3 years now. Had one issue which Davis fixed for N/C in 2006. Provantage Corp. Great deals.

Posted January 11th at 7:38 AM
Patty:

Kurt,
Any remnants of snow piles will resemble a pile of sand. So if your coming this way to see snow, I'd save your money right now and just go to the beach. At least the piles of sand there come along with warm weather. Just playing with ya. Hope you have an enjoyable and safe trip North.

Posted January 11th at 7:38 AM
Kurt (Miami, FL):

Thanx, Patty. I'm coming up that way, in part, to see some family, so I'll be up there either way. But, I am hoping for as much snow, as possible, (within reason, I guess) any way I can get it. I guess we'll see what happens..and time will tell. But, I am hoping for good stuff to happen.
How close are you to Cooperstown? Do you know how much is left there right now, as far as snow? Even if it's only a few piles, that would tide me over nicely until another good storm comes along.

Posted January 11th at 7:58 AM
Andy (Forestport):

Kurt

A safe estimate would be none, this week has made it look like April in Central New York. It is ugly looking to say the least, Things have a way of turning on a dime around here weather-wise so you never know...

Posted January 11th at 8:58 AM
Brad (Oneonta):

I am 20 minutes south of cooperstown and there is no snow at all There is no snow in the woods, no snow in on the lawns and no snow on the hill tops. Unless you are at a parking lot at a shopping center where the piles are still visible. Dingy and dirty looking piles at that.

Posted January 11th at 9:02 AM
kurt (Miami, FL):

Thanx to Brad and Andy for the info.
Well, here's hoping for a few nice little storms (or one big one) over the next week or so!

(If anyone spots any snow, currently, anywhere within 20-30 miles of Cooperstown, let me know. Thanx. I guess there is still a bit N of there a ways?)

Posted January 11th at 9:16 AM
Matt Lanza:

Kurt, you will likely begin to see the rebuilding process if you're here next week. The models are trying to cluster on a storm Monday that's far enough away for us to just get light snows from a clipper. But I am really impressed by the strength of the cold forecasted to plunge into the Lakes by the end of next week.

Posted January 11th at 10:17 AM
Matt Lanza:

Randy: Too early to say, but the model looks 1-3 from clippers...whether that occurs or not, we'll see. I think we'll at least begin whitening the ground up here.

Posted January 11th at 10:20 AM
Kathy(St Johnsville):

Its been raining hard all night and all morning here...How much rain should we get????What about flooding issues???Any reports yet???Thank You

Posted January 11th at 11:20 AM
Rob(whitesboro):

Looks like a widespread 1/2-3/4" for most of the area so far.Losing interest in this Monday storm.Doesn't look good for the home team.I like the upcoming pattern though.I think the best it yet to come.

Posted January 11th at 11:27 AM
Rob(whitesboro):

Parts of Hamilton county are closing in on 2" so far.I wonder how long the icing held on there.

Posted January 11th at 11:30 AM
Kurt (Miami, FL):

Thanx to Matt (and everyone) for the info. I will be there next week...and I'm very much looking forward to seeing what happens. (I hope I end up w/ white ground most of the time.)

Posted January 11th at 11:43 AM
Bob (Cooperstown):

Kurt Just a few piles of snow here and there mostly brown around. Maybe you'll get lucky and the Monday storm will do something. All the Village X-mas lights came down Tuesday and are packed away as well as Santas Cottage. Sorry

Posted January 11th at 12:22 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

West Canada Creek at Hinckley Reservoir is forecast to go into moderate flood by Sunday Morning. Moderate stage is 1228.0 feet. At this stage, widespread flooding between Hinckley and Herkimer occurs and three feet of water are spilling over the dam. The Mohawk River at Utica is forecast to hit flood stage of 403 feet tomorrow afternoon and forecast to crest just a little above flood stage at 403.13 feet.

Posted January 11th at 1:18 PM
Matt Lanza:

I'm trying to find out from NWS Albany if they plan to issue warnings for the West Canada.

Posted January 11th at 3:44 PM
Matt Lanza:

Flood Warnings will likely be issued eventually for the West Canada at Hinckley. Moderate flooding is forecasted, so if you live between Hickley and Herkimer along the West Canada, make preparations now. Here's a link to the river gauge data.

Posted January 11th at 3:50 PM
Matt Lanza:

Just to add, moderate flooding is expected by tomorrow evening. Minor flooding should begin after midnight tonight.

Posted January 11th at 3:52 PM
ken:

matt,when do the new models come out for monday?is it still unlikely that there will be a good snowstorm or is there any chance that things can change?

Posted January 11th at 4:07 PM
Tim (Salisbury):

Kurt; We still have over 1' of snow &ice on the ground here in Salisbury. We are about 35 miles north of Cooperstown.

Posted January 11th at 4:15 PM
Matt Lanza:

Ken: I'm going about 75% now against a big storm Monday. Monday/Tuesday looks to me like what we occasionally call a "flizzard." Lots of light snow/flurries. Current model output is about 3" snow over 36-48 hours.

Posted January 11th at 4:23 PM
John ( new hartford):

Tim, what route are you taking to get from cooperstown to salisbury thats only 35miles?

Posted January 11th at 4:28 PM
Mel (Westernville):

Minor flooding occurring on the Mohawk above Lake Delta - usual corn fields are under water as it has hopped the banks.

Posted January 11th at 4:35 PM
Andy Forestport:

Hope some snow comes because it is ugly outside for 1/11

Posted January 11th at 6:14 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

12z and 18z runs of models have shifted slightly west, not enough to give us alot of snow, but perhaps we will see even more of a westward trend with the 00z models.

Posted January 11th at 6:46 PM
Mike(Leonardsville):

I like this weather with no snow, it looks like April and feels like spring. What do you think of the snow in Baghdad for the 1st time in 100 years.

Posted January 11th at 6:47 PM
Matt (HP):

La Nina? Climate Change? Its still pretty cool that it snowed in Baghdad. Made it seem like it wasnt a country under blood shed.

Posted January 11th at 7:09 PM
Matt Lanza:

Not much to blog about tonight except the cold late next week. I'll take any requests. :)

Posted January 11th at 8:20 PM
Matt Lanza:

Never mind. I'm going to take a look back at the warmth and put it in perspective...and look forward to the cold.

Posted January 11th at 8:37 PM
Mike(leonardsville):

How bad will the cold get?

Posted January 11th at 8:59 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

Matt I noticed the lake is around 40 degrees.What would 850 temps have to be this time of year to get some good lake snows?

Posted January 11th at 9:35 PM
Matt Lanza:

New entry is up!

Posted January 11th at 9:36 PM
Gary (Schuyler):

Matt,

I brought up the 1966 storm back in December on one of the entries, but it got "lost" due to the impending snow storm at that time and the high amount of blog entries. I know many that blog here weren't around in 1966 when the "Blizzard of '66" took place. That was the benchmark for snowstorms for many years afterwards (and to this day for me!). There were no computers then, so perhaps not much of an official record of it may exist at this point. But, in my opinion, it outdone the V-day or Christmas 2002 storm for the fact the snow ratio seemed less, meaning more moisture per inch of snow which made snow removal very difficult. I live in the same house I did back then and one of the big "V" plows broke down, snow was up past the doors on the vehicle, albeit due to heavy drifting. At that point, Ch. 2 didn't have any meteorologists on staff, I used to rely on Meteorologist Horace Meredith out of Syracuse's ch. 9. If memory serves me right, the Feb 1966 storm tracked up the Hudson Valley then it got up north of the Lake George area and the low rotated in a small circle before moving on. This effectively held the storm over the area for a longer duration. Lake effect ensued afterwards then moved south and west of the Utica area. A couple days later the temperatures were in the 40s. Total snowfall was in the 30 inch plus range but again, it seemed to be a denser snow than the recent two big storms we've had.

Are you aware of any recent storms taking the Hudson Valley track northward? Is there any record of this storm anywhere? I don't know exactly where the rain/snow line was, but Utica got heavy snow, Albany rain.

Just a tidbit here during a somewhat slow period of weather.

Posted January 11th at 10:01 PM
kurt (Miami, FL):

Thanx to Bob and Tim for info. I think everything will work out OK; I'm sure some will still have Christmas lights up and stuff. And I think the ground will end up white, even if it takes a few days. (I'll have to remember to pack some patience!)
Also, I will keep Salisbury in mind for a little side visit!

Posted January 11th at 11:06 PM

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