Trying to catch up with the rest of the snowy nation...

Posted February 12th, 2010 by Bill Kardas. 65 comments

It's been an amazing winter across the country.  This week, we saw two big storms, one in the Mid Atlantic and one across the southern US.  Here's a look at some of the highlights of the week:

Baltimore, Philidelphia, Washington break all time snowfall records.  All three cities now lead Central New York in seasonal snowfall.

The snowpack for Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Northern Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Oaklahoma, and Texas (of all places) is greater than the snow pack in the lower elevations of Central New York.  During the peak of the Mid Atlantic storm, some areas had over three feet of snow on the ground.  To put that in perspective, that's similar to the amount of snow we had on the ground at the end of that tremendous snowfall month of February 2007 (when we picked up 70" of snow, but had a maximum snow pack of about three feet).

Dallas Texas picked up 12.5" of snow last night, bringing the season snowfall to 15.7" (second snowiest on record).  Here in Utica, our one day largest event was 8.0" in early January.

Is there any chance that we can change our fortunes over the next couple of days?  I think so.  Lake Ontario will be our saving grace for snow lovers over the next seven days.  A steady northwesterly breeze will bring us lake effect snow showers for at least the next several days.  Granted, most of the time it will be on the lighter side, but over the weekend it looks to be a lot more widespread.  Here's why...

The Mid Atlantic storm from earlier in the week has boomeranged back to the Northeast (sort of).  The storm will park over eastern Canada (Newfoundland-ish), but it's effects will be felt all the way here in Central New York.  This storm will add moisture back into the atmosphere (something we've been lacking over the past two days).  So, even though it won't get much colder, the added moisture and deepening inversion will help to spur widespread lake effect snows.  In addition, there will be a trough not far to the north and west that will stall and help enhance the snows.

It's a little early to draw snow maps for a lake effect event, but what we can tell you is that this is going to be a widespead snow.  Most areas will pick up a couple of inches over the weekend, but some places will pick up more than others.  Travel will be ok in most areas through the weekend, but in some areas (which we'll highlight below) it may be a bit tricky due to locally heavier snows.  Since this is going to be a lake effect driven snow, your location will make all the difference in terms of snowfall.  I'll attempt to paint the general idea based on location.

Mohawk Valley & south

The best chance of widespread snow will be here on Saturday for the Mohawk Valley to the south (there will be snow on Sunday too, but lighter).  Winds will be northwesterly tonight and Saturday.  At this point, it's too early to be specific with numbers, but the highest totals look to be in Madison county and the least in the Eastern Mohawk Valley and Chenango County.  Since it's too early to put out numbers, what I can tell you is that at least a few inches look to be a good bet, but we'll pin this down in more detail later today.

North of the Mohawk Valley

Snow showers look to be a good bet for most of the weekend, but the heavier snows will fall on Sunday.  Winds will shift into the west on Sunday morning, and that should allow for a large band of snow to develop and dump snow along the Tug Hill.  The cut off to this snow will be tremendous as usual, with much less snows expected south of the Tug Hill.  It's way too early to put out numbers for this, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Lake Effect Snow Warnings issued up along the Tug Hill based on the data we've been looking at over the past 24 hours. I can't stress enough that the snows will be localized, and that most of it will fall along the Tug Hill.  As with all lake effect events, any subtle change in the winds will change the forecast, so check back with us throughout the weekend for updates.

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  1. Rob:

    Let it snow…...Please!!!

    Posted February 12th at 8:36 AM

  2. Gordon (Northwestern):

    Bill: By reading your post it seems that most of the LE snow will fall south of Northern Oneida county on Saturday eveving, and the North of my area on Sunday. Missing my area like it has all Winter. I need more snow in Northern Oneida county soon, as I have planned a Memorial Snowmobile ride for a friend of mine, who passed away last Feb. of a heart attack, The ride is going from Mapledale up to the Buffalo Head Restaraunt for lunch, and back. I am also raising money foe the American Heart Association with this Memorial ride.There is very little snow over in the Mapledale area, and they can’t even groom the trails, Any chance that much LE snow will fall in Northern and Central Oneida county.

    Posted February 12th at 9:38 AM

  3. randy Vitullo :

    Will HP get in on this Bill?

    Posted February 12th at 10:19 AM

  4. randy Vitullo :

    The GFS and the NAM are both painting .5 qpf through Monday at 1800 hours. Looking good. I HOPE it pans out.

    Posted February 12th at 10:26 AM

  5. randy Vitullo :

    That should be by 1800 hours….

    Posted February 12th at 10:27 AM

  6. Becky (West Leyden):

    I placed this in the other entry. However I wanted more people to see it.

    Because of the lean winter this year I wanted to research annual snowfall totals on the Tug Hill. I found a lot of interesting information. I’ve come up with a two top ten list for the region. Please note, I did find a few discrepancies between the Northeast Regional Climate Center’s and National Climatic Data Center’s data. Therefore, I show everything as I found it. However, before I get into the snow amounts I want to give you a broad overview of the Tug. Many old timers up here think the Tug Hill Plateau got its name sometime around the 18th and 19th centuries. in this time span the term “tugging” was use to describe areas that were reached by horses or oxen pulling a wagon up a long road to get to a high area. H.E. Krueger in an article “The Lesser Wilderness – Tug Hill” he claims the Tug Hill was named by two early settlers, Isaac Perry and a Mr. Buell when traveling up the hill west of Turin. The Tug Hill covers an area of 2,100 square miles with an elevation from about 350 feet on the west to over 2,000 feet in the east. The region has been described as having the heaviest snows east of the Rockies, though Michigan’s Upper Peninsula and the White and Green Mountains of New Hampshire and Vermont rival Tug Hill. The combination of winter winds blowing over some 150 miles of Lake Ontario waters and the 2,000-foot rise of Tug Hill creates these heavy snows. But “lake effect” snows can be very local, so snowfall amounts around the Tug Hill Region vary considerably. There is no “average” snowfall for the entire region, except to say it is heavy everywhere in the region. Several towns in the region hold impressive records. The small town of Hooker recorded 466.9” of snow in the winter of 1976-77. The monthly record for snow accumulation belongs to Bennet Bridges and is 192” in January 1978. The official record for a one day snowfall in NY State belongs to Montague NY. The hamlet had 77” of snow in 24 hours on the 11th/12th of January 1997. Montague also holds the single storm record for snowfall in NY with 95” from January 10th-14th in 1997. Not to be outdone, Redfield received 141 inches during the 12 day lake effect event of February, 2007. According to data from Northeast Regional Climate Center Department of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences at Cornell University the highest recorded monthly snowfall for the Boonville area was 156.4 inches in January of 1978. The highest recorded yearly snowfall for that area was 346.1 inches in 1976-1977. The highest recorded monthly snowfall for the Montague area was 182 inches in January of 1978, the highest recorded yearly snowfall for Montague was 466.9 inches in the winter of 1976-1977. For Highmarket the highest recorded monthly snowfall was 114.3 inches of snow in January of 1997, this year also had the highest recorded yearly total with a total of 296.2 inches of snow received for the year 1996-1997. In Lowville the highest month was January of ’78 when the recorded amount of snow was 75.9 inches and the highest recorded year was 251.0 for the winter of 1970-1971. For Lyons Falls the highest month was January of 1978 with 76.5 inches and the highest year was the winter of 1970 – 1971 with 181.4 inches of snow received. I composed the following data from the NOAA/National Climatic Data Center’s Climate Services and Monitoring Division. As stated earlier there is no actual average for the entire region. Therefore, I’ve picked five areas that show the top ten years with the highest and lowest annual snowfall amounts. All of these amounts are in inches

    Lowville
    Least snowiest winters
    57.0 in 1938, 67.5 in 1941, 68.2 in 1934, 72.5 in 1953, 77.8 in 1967 80.5 in 1952 85.5 in 1957 86.7 in 1957 90.5 in 1944, 91.0 in 1958
    Snowiest winters
    181.4 in 1977, 168.0 in1959, 155.0 in 1960, 153.3 in 1993, 152.5 in 1947, 152.2 in 1975, 144.6 in 1985, 144.5 in 1963, 125.0 in 1964, 123.6 in 1956

    HOOKER 12 NNW
    Least snowiest winters
    104.0 in 1957, 106.5 in 1998, 129.5 in 1956, 157.7 in 2004, 168.5 in 1964, 187.2 in 1966, 193.2 in 1984, 200.6 in 1970, 202.6 in 1973, 224.6 in 1974
    Snowiest winters
    430.4 in 1976, 349.6 in 1971, 305.4 in 1979, 280.6 in 1997, 275.9 in 1980, 255.7 in 1982, 253.7 in 1969, 245.3 in 1981, 230.7 in 2000, 229.7 in 1999

    Beaver Falls
    Least snowiest winters
    52.4 in 1981, 58.1 in 1990, 70.5 in 1973, 73.0 in 1984, 73.1 in 1980, 85.5 in 1982, 87.8 in 1991, 100.9 in
    1961, 102.1 in 1979, 111.9 in 1968
    Snowiest winters
    186.6 in 1971, 135.7 in 1975, 124.3 in 1977, 118.0 in 1974, 117.4 in 1978, 111.9 in 1968, 102.1 in 1979, 100.9 in 1961, 87.8 in 1991, 87.8 in 1991

    Highmarket
    Least snowiest winters
    91.2 in 1973, 126.5 in 1969, 128.1 in 1964, 130.1 in 1963, 145.0 in 1979, 137.1 in 1974, 166.3 in 1992, 168.1 in 1968, 175.4 in 1960, 177.0 in 1975
    Snowiest winters
    300.1 in 2002, 209.5 in 1971, 208.5 in 1977, 177.0 in 1975, 175.4 in 1960, 168.1 in 1968, 166.3 in 1992, 148.5 in 1974, 145.0 in 1979, 130.1 in 1963

    Lyons Falls
    Least snowiest winters
    59.1 in 1981, 60.8 in 1998, 62.1 in 1973, 73.8 in 1969, 76.3 in 1963, 86.0 in 1961, 93.7 in 1970, 95.0 in 1980, 96.9 in 1999, 97.0 in 1964
    Snowiest winters
    157.6 in 1971, 147.0 in 1960, 120.3 in 1967, 110.6 in 1955, 98.6 in 1982, 97.0 in 1964, 96.9 in 1999, 95.0 in 1980, 93.7 in 1970, 86.0 in 1961

    The data shows that the Tug Hill has seen many winters like this one. This data also shows that West Leyden, Constableville, and Highmarket are on track to be included in the top ten list for least snowfall, it remains to be seen if it comes to pass.

    Posted February 12th at 10:30 AM

  7. Bill Kardas (WKTV):

    Randy & Gordon,

    There will be lake effect in Central and Northern Oneida County. Gordon has a better shot of seeing more snow than Randy, only because the Sunday snows will have a better fetch off Lake Ontario.

    There are more question marks about Sunday looking at the new 12z data. The NAM and WRF suggest that the bands will develop and stay farther north (north of the Tug). Something to watch over the next few days. Aside from that, no major change to the widespread fluff snows expected tomorrow for most of the area. It may be more localized on Sunday.

    Posted February 12th at 10:42 AM

  8. Bill Kardas (WKTV):

    Neat research project. The Tug Hill is the epitome of how terrain and geography play a role in weather here in Central New York. It’s a challenge to predict Tug Hill snowfall. It’s not unusual to see events that bring a 30” snowfall difference over 30 miles. It’s neat to see how the areas you listed work out with seasonal snowfall.

    Posted February 12th at 11:01 AM

  9. randy Vitullo :

    Thanks Bill. Skiing in HP on Saturday?

    Posted February 12th at 11:58 AM

  10. Becky (West Leyden):

    GFS is showing the low coming out of the Gulf and hitting the Mid Atlantic with 6-8 inches of snow Monday into Tuesday. It’s way too early for predictions. However, the models are hinting at a possible costal storm around the 24-25 of February. If it develops, it looks to impact the Mid Atlantic region once again. This will be no surprise for Central New Yorkers because what else is new!

    Posted February 12th at 4:14 PM

  11. fairfield:

    Thanks Becky for that depressing news. and to think i used to laugh at people for wanting to move south for the winter!

    Posted February 12th at 5:09 PM

  12. randy Vitullo :

    Not to add insult to injury, but, the GFS points to a storm from the 27th through the 2nd of March developing in the middle of the country. It looks to give us 4 or 5 inches of snow before the changeover to an inch or two of rain. THE DREADED WESTERN RUNNER............ Winter season terminated. AND YOU KNOW THIS ONE WILL TAKE THE TRACK TO HIT CNY.

    Posted February 13th at 8:21 AM

  13. Vin:

    Randy. That will def hit us. Winter is def over for us!

    Posted February 13th at 8:30 AM

  14. Jill Reale (Utica):

    This pattern really isnt going to help our snowfall totals. Today, lake effect looks weak to our south and west, towards Cortland County, as well as Southern Madison and Chenango Counties. Tonight, a weak upper level low with spin extra moisture across the lakes, intensifying lake effect snow. The winds will still be in a WNW direction, with the “heaviest” snow extending from Syracuse into Madison, Chenango, Otsego and Southern Oneida Counties. Tomorrow, lake effect looks more impressive as the band lifts to the north, into the Tug Hill.

    Posted February 13th at 9:20 AM

  15. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    NWS Bgm is calling for the potential of significant LES Sunday night and monday on a 280 flow. This would target central and northern Oneida counties.

    Posted February 13th at 9:50 AM

  16. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    Becky, nice summary. Do you have data representing the departure from average for each of those locations to compare against by any chance?

    Posted February 13th at 9:56 AM

  17. Tony - CNYWeather.com (Westmo):

    Overnight low of 2 degrees. Was a nice night for a bonfire! :-)

    Posted February 13th at 9:59 AM

  18. Rob (Whitesboro):

    Significant snow on the GFS for Tuesday now. If this holds true we got a good 6”+ storm heading our way.

    Posted February 13th at 11:17 AM

  19. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    Rob,

    Saw that this morning….that storm has trended north on every model run this week.

    This is ONLY SPECULATION, but growing up here and studying the weather my entire life around here. I would speculate that we will have a VERY snowy March. As the weather pattern changes and starts to shift toward spring I imagine that the storms will begin to start to move north. Laws of statistics says that the mid-atlantic region (DC/BALT/PHL) and southeast region will not continue this streak they are having.

    Latest guidance shows a prolonged period of a trough in the east with a strom trapped in Canda with a persistant WNW wind. I think we will get a decent amount of LES and also the possible storm on Tuesday.

    It would be very difficult to believe with the eastern trough for the majority of the winter that CNY doesnt get much snow.

    Again, this is only SPECULATION on my part as an avid weather observer of the area.

    Posted February 13th at 11:34 AM

  20. Rob (Whitesboro):

    We definitely need some colder air up in Canada. We got nothing to tap into…even if we do get a major storm. This isn’t a good thing for LES in the long term. We’ll see how we do tonight. I think we’ll get a few inches. We need it too. The snowpack here is down to 3.0”

    Posted February 13th at 11:51 AM

  21. Bob:

    Nothing exciting about snow in March. Any snow we get melts the day after it falls.

    Posted February 13th at 11:52 AM

  22. fairfield:

    Anthony, stop teasing…..you’ll only anger the snow gods…...lol

    Posted February 13th at 11:52 AM

  23. Fred:

    I think the winter will end early and we’ll have a similar March like last March. Only this time, it will warm up quickly and the snow will melt like crazy.

    Posted February 13th at 12:01 PM

  24. nugfin (South Utica - Genesee St.):

    Lake Effect is starting to fill in on the radar over Onondaga and Madison Counties.
    Even starting to get some flurries here now.

    Posted February 13th at 12:06 PM

  25. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    Bob,

    We have had many many seasons when we have a lot of snow in march and is not gone until into April. For example I got married on spring break in April two years ago in Florida and there was still over 6” on the ground up here on the hill when we get back. So do t discount late winters in CNY.

    Posted February 13th at 12:30 PM

  26. Jeff H (Sherburne Hills):

    Has anyone checked out the 1200 NAM and GFS?? Or is this the 3 day jinx that we have seen all winter? The GFS is even painting over an inch in QPF out to 87 hours.

    Posted February 13th at 12:39 PM

  27. Rob (Whitesboro):

    Alot of the ensembles are showing at least advisory criteria snows. Some go along with the operational run too. Anthony that’s for sure. March is probably the wildest month there is. Although we won’t use last year as an example. What a waste of a month that was!

    Posted February 13th at 12:50 PM

  28. Mel (Westernville):

    Been getting light snow for a few hours – just picked up in intensity in the last 10 minutes. 8” of snowpack.

    Posted February 13th at 1:44 PM

  29. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    Jeff,

    it’s possible it is the jinx we have seen all winter. Or as my wife would say (she’s a teacher) ...this will be a storm we get because the kids don’t have school all week…lol.

    Posted February 13th at 2:15 PM

  30. Bob:

    True Anthony but it can also be sunny and 70 degrees in March. Unless we get storm after storm in March, we lose more snow than we keep.. I’ve also seen snow melt with air temperatures in the teens so long as the sun is out.

    Posted February 13th at 2:50 PM

  31. Jeff H (Sherburne Hills):

    Anthony-

    Thats such an oddity here in NY. My kids have school next week, They have Presidents day off but go the rest of the week. They get their week off next month I think.

    Posted February 13th at 3:43 PM

  32. Becky (West Leyden):

    16 Anthony, not at this time I have I have a ton of raw data that I’m still compiling. What I’m trying to do is compile at the least an 40-60 year of snowfall record for each location. After that I should have a good handle on what the median is for each location. along with this I want to gather and match up as much local Climate and coastal storm data to match up to those years. If I can find enough, I want to put the data into a spreadsheet for what if analysis. It will take a lot of digging, I will let you know what I find.

    Posted February 13th at 4:06 PM

  33. Mike W (EAST HERKIMER):

    Heading back upstate on monday, could the snow be following lol FWIW HPC has a 40% chance of 4” and 10% chance of 8” for cny..

    Posted February 13th at 4:47 PM

  34. Bill Kardas (WKTV):

    Looks like our luck (or bad luck depending on your opinion of snow) is about to run out for the middle of next week. NAM, GFS, EURO are all on board with a potential storm for Central New York. It’s not a big one, but considering our poor storm season so far, it could be the biggest one we’ve seen this winter. We’ll keep you posted over the next few days as to where it’s heading and how much snow it could bring. Time frame this far out looks to be on Tuesday.

    Remember, it is at least 3 days out, and our forecast models will change several times over with this storm (making snowfall predictions this far early in the game not practical)...but it is something to watch closely over the next few days.

    Posted February 13th at 5:09 PM

  35. Becky (West Leyden):

    As for cold or warming trend developing.I would watch the polar vortex, early to mid December it had split this is usely a sign for cold weather in few weeks. If you remember we did have quite a bit of cold weather in the beginning of January. well then in around the 28 of December the vortex got its act back together and by January 11-12 reached its peak, it then around the 20th of January it started to move off the pole and move into Asia, this allowed high pressure to be pulled up into Canada. Because of this we had a lot of cold weather again. Well now the vortex looks like it’s trying to redevelop. It’s too early to know for sure, but, it could mean we could be seeing a warming trend for the beginning or middle of march. time will tell.

    Posted February 13th at 5:29 PM

  36. nugfin (South Utica - Genesee St.):

    This band dropping in from the north looks like it’s getting stronger on radar. Maybe a quick inch or so?

    Posted February 13th at 7:14 PM

  37. Rob (Whitesboro):

    That band of snow from the north is leftover from the blizzard that hit the Mid-Atlantic. I’ll have to add this on to the 1.5” we got on Wed…lol. It’s pretty slippery out right now. There’s a coating of snow on the roads around here.

    Posted February 13th at 7:57 PM

  38. Heather (Mohawk):

    was snowing pretty good out there a little bit ago headed toward Little Falls and roads were covered couldn’t go over 40mph. Then outside of Little falls I almost hit a Robin. On the way back home almost hit a skunk I think this weather has every living creature messed up!!! Becareful while traveling tonight its slick and snowy. Happy Valentine’s Day to all

    Posted February 13th at 9:45 PM

  39. Chris ( HP Weather Oberserver ):

    Seeing some light snow out tonight.. Snowing decently west of rome heading towards vernon and sylvan beach area’s. lake effect is turning up a little bit.. See’s our luck is changing a bit a new storm for monday night and tuesday is heading further north. NWS is calling for moderate accumulations for tuesday. It would be nice to see something. I have to agree with anthony and that is now with trends starting to change this could lead to a snowy march. So at least a few things to watch over the next few days along with possible lake effect for northern and central oneida county late sunday night.

    Posted February 13th at 9:59 PM

  40. Becky (West Leyden):

    picked up 3/4 of an inch

    Posted February 14th at 1:40 AM

  41. Allen (Sauquoit):

    Just drove home from bowling..ha. Backroads of Sauqoit/Frankfort VERY bad, snow covered and drifts everywhere. Be careful if you’re out tonight or early tomorrow morning. Pretty gusty winds along with the light snow makes things pretty tricky.

    Posted February 14th at 3:00 AM

  42. Dale:

    Can anyone tell me when this storm may or may not hit us? my wife already had her auto train cancelled on the way down to Florida from that mid atlantic storm. She is due to take the train back on Wednesday.

    Thanks

    Posted February 14th at 5:55 AM

  43. Jill Reale:

    Snow forecast until Midnight

    Posted February 14th at 9:18 AM

  44. Chris ( HP Weather Oberserver ):

    Picked up about a 1/2 inch of fluffy snow this morning. Finally made it to the 50 inch mark for the season. some snow flurries this morning here and hoping for some lake effect later on this afternoon

    Posted February 14th at 10:09 AM

  45. Rob (Whitesboro):

    I had 1.2” of snow this morning here. The NAM isn’t pushing the band as far north as it has been. Maybe we’ll get a few more inches coming later on today. Looks like we survived this mornings run on the GFS.

    Posted February 14th at 10:57 AM

  46. cedarville:

    are we gonna get the storm on tuesday?

    Posted February 14th at 11:20 AM

  47. randy Vitullo :

    Check out the 12UTC of the GFS for February 28 – March 2. If this pans out, we will be shutdown for days. The total precipitation for this potential storm exceeds 2.5 inches with 0 blue line staying south of NY for the entire event. Slated to start on Sunday morning, 28 Feb., and last into Tuesday morning, 2 March. That is a big shift from the last four or five runs of the long range GFS.

    Posted February 14th at 12:25 PM

  48. Rob (Whitesboro):

    That’s an intense storm Randy. Lots of warm air aloft though. The GFS ensembles are in excellent agreement. All twelve ensembles give us 6” of snow on Tuesday.

    Posted February 14th at 12:44 PM

  49. Gordon (Northwestern):

    Just got back from New Hartford and it was freezing drizzle all the way home. Funny, that with all this high tech stuff availble, and these computer bases storm tracks, models and forecasts that not one forecast I heard for our area mentioned freezing drizzle. . The same thing happened back in December, there was forecasts of light LE snow for central NY and we had alot of freezing drizzle instead. Not one forecast back then mentioned freezing drizzle until it was actually happening. I’m not picking on any local forecasters, because no one in central NY had it forecast, this time or last time.

    Posted February 14th at 12:51 PM

  50. deb in hartwick:

    winter storm watches up for otsego county tomorrow afternoon through tuesday..
    hope it comes to be this time…..

    Posted February 14th at 2:54 PM

  51. Becky (West Leyden):

    just been having light LES flurries this afternoon. The intensity should increase when the sun goes down.

    Posted February 14th at 3:08 PM

  52. randy Vitullo :

    Rob, I thought if the blue 0 line is south of us, all of the precipitation remains frozen. Where do you see warm air aloft? Which panel do you click on for that observation?

    Posted February 14th at 3:23 PM

  53. Rob (Whitesboro):

    You really can’t tell unless you look at a sounding…which are only available within 84hrs. Any storm of that size and that far inland would produce some serious sleet. You can use the thickness lines to get a rough idea. Looks like some LES is developing and heading your way. It’s snowing lightly here.

    Posted February 14th at 3:40 PM

  54. Mike W (EAST HERKIMER):

    This is why BGM put out watches

    PATTERN RECOGNITION...WITH A DEEPENING STORM CROSSING SOUTHEAST PA/NJ/LONG ISLAND...WOULD SUGGEST TO ME A SCENARIO MORE LIKE WHAT HPC AND THE GFS ARE SHOWING.

    Posted February 14th at 3:54 PM

  55. nugfin (South Utica - Genesee St.):

    Got a nice little layer of ice on the cars and now have a very sleety almost pellet-like snow falling

    Posted February 14th at 4:07 PM

  56. Chris ( HP Weather Oberserver ):

    Picked up 1.5 inches today during the day today. Had some good bursts of snow today, it was a showery type snow with some big flakes mixed in. 51.5 inches for the season. What is this mega storm coming at us 2 weeks (Feb 28th – Mar 2nd) down the road, isn’t it a little far fetched to call something like that out. can anyone from the weather team shine some light on this?

    Posted February 14th at 5:06 PM

  57. MG(Point Rock):

    TYX radar has the band right over me, but I’m not seeing much activity at present. Only a half inch of snow and a coating of ice from some freezing drizzle since sunrise

    Posted February 14th at 5:41 PM

  58. Jill Reale (Utica):

    Euro spits out next to 0 QPF for the Mohawk Valley for Monday night into Tuesday. It hits the Catskills pretty hard, but after that, the QPF drops quickly. I break down the potential storm this evening

    Posted February 14th at 6:12 PM

  59. Mel (Westernville):

    MG – same thing here – radar shows a lot of snow but we had some snow over earlier freezing rain.

    Posted February 14th at 6:39 PM

  60. randy Vitullo :

    The NAM gives us .5 qpf and the GFS gives us up to .75. I hope the Euro is wrong.

    Posted February 14th at 6:56 PM

  61. Anthony (N.Marcy):

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the euro esentially not to be used this close to an event….using the nam and gfs makes much more sense at this point

    Posted February 14th at 7:08 PM

  62. Mike W (EAST HERKIMER):

    Anthony last yr the euro was deadly under 72 hr but this yr hasnt been that great..The NAM is higher resolution and usually at its best within 24-48 hrs IMO..The GFS and GEFS have been pretty consistent and is the best case scenerio for CNY..SREF have come more inline with the gfs..

    Posted February 14th at 8:05 PM

  63. Art (Oriskany Falls):

    We had more Winter weather here today.
    It did a bit of everything just about the whole day. Not a lot of accumulation though. We probably got 2” for the whole day.

    It has been windy here also. Right now it is lightly snowing and it’s still windy. This snow we got today wasn’t fluff snow it was the real thing and yes, it had some rain in it at times. Freezing drizzle I guess ya would call it..

    I checked the radar a couple of times today to see if it was picking up the blowing snow we were having, but nothing showed.
    Maybe they had the snow blowers out at Griffiss today. :-)

    The temp is 25* right now. It is snowing pretty good again right now and the wind is a blowing. It seems this much snow should show on the Radar. I just might check that out one more time.

    Posted February 14th at 8:32 PM

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