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Well, another modest snow event in the books. Continuing my duty of keeping my performance available to you, here's the snowfall forecast from 11 PM last night with total amounts overlaid. I'm not trying to prove a point (although I think it's hilarious that some people were calling the forecast busted at 9 AM today). The 4-8" was clearly too high (even though I did make clear that it'd be 5-6" in spots, with 7-8" very isolated south...still we never hit 8" anywhere except Delaware County off the map)...Adam's 4-6" this morning was a great forecast that worked out very well. All in all, I am very satisfied with our performance during this storm.

Ridiculous February

We have recorded at least a Trace of precipitation every day this month. Our last true dry day (0.00 on the rain gauge) was January 28th! There have only been 4 days this month without snowflakes. We're at 17.8", which is 1" below normal for the entire month, which we should make up next week. Precip wise, we're still only at 3.85" remarkably. Though I definitely believe that's underdone a bit. We're very close to cracking the top 10 wettest February list.

Next Week's Storm

The computer models are all in overwhelming agreement on a storm ejecting out of the Plains and into the Lakes or Northeast next week. The question now becomes...where does it track. For much of this week, the forecast track has taken the storm up the St. Lawrence Valley or to our north. Then, with the 00Z runs last night and the 12Z runs today...slowly but surely, the storm track has trended about 200-400 miles further south. The track now takes the low across PA or the NY/PA border. Interpreting the model literally, we'd be talking 12" or more area-wide of snow. Mixing still would be an issue, but much, much less so than even 24 hours ago. Rain chances are virtually nil on all the models. 70% snow, 30% sleet at this time according to my eyes. This bears close watching. My advice to everyone this weekend: Don't focus on the exact track and the model's verbatum precip/p-type. Watch trends. Does this go back to a St. Lawrence track? Does this evolve into a nor'easter situation? Either way we're looking at quite an expansive storm...not the strongest we've seen in the last 18 months, but certainly a decent one. There is some potential for LES behind the storm, but it's limited at this point thanks to a sprawling high pressure system building in for Thursday.

Late Week Clipper

And if that storm doesn't get us, I'm seeing signals for a potential "glorified clipper" at the end of next week for Friday. GFS and ensembles and Euro in decent agreement on a low diving across the Lakes. This will likely bring a widespread snow for the last day of February.

Beyond this point, the PNA stays on the positive side, so we'll be able to tap into Arctic cold. The NAO stays positive/neutral...not the best for blocking, but it isn't raging positive. And it is showing signs of trending toward the negative around the 10th of March. My gut feeling is that the first 10 days of March average a few degrees below normal, with a decent amount of variance (10-15 degrees below normal here, normal to 5 degrees below normal there). If we can lock a negative NAO in, the middle of March will be significantly colder than normal. With the La Nina continuing to rage, I do expect a few chances for storms as well through mid-March.

I plan to go over a few things in the next week or two to get a general March-April-May forecast together. Our main focus will be on La Nina, with a secondary focus on wet winters and modest snowy winters. But based on the research I did last fall, I think March and April will be more dreary than pleasant. We'll see though.

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Jim in North Utica near Schuyler Line:

Matt, I have the luxury of making my own schedule at my job and am trying to figure out which early weekday to take off next week. Your insight is tremendous in helping to figure out how we deal with our first grader on snow days when we both work. If I can figure out the potential snow day, then I can sched a regular day off and not have to burn a sick, personal, or vacation day to stay home with our son. I know it is very early and I check in constantly, but with this in mind; do you have any inkling yet on the time frame of this storm? Will it hit early on Tuesday, or not until later in the day after school starts? Or will it come in on Tuesday night and have more of a school effect on Wednesday? I'll ask again, or just see the answer eventually by Sunday night before I set my sched in stone, just wondering if you have any thoughts yet on the timing?

Constant every day blog reader and sometimes poster, keep up the great job and stop even paying note of any kind to the negs!

Posted February 22nd at 8:52 PM
Matt Lanza:

Jim: Thank you! At this point....I would say Wednesday, preliminarily. I am concerned with a dry slot at some point in this storm, but it's far too early to say when and where. For now, plan on Wednesday, and check back in Sunday...when we'll have an even better idea of what's going on.

Posted February 22nd at 8:58 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

matt, is that 12 inch, 70 percent snow 30 percent sleet include binghamton? or do u think binghamton has a better shot at rain?

Posted February 22nd at 8:59 PM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: Way too early to get that specific. I'm lumping Upstate NY into one at this stage in the game. Obviously the further south, the better chance of mixing. But, like I said, way too soon.

Posted February 22nd at 9:11 PM
mike m (binghamton):

ok thanks matt, btw matt did you see the 12z euro, that would be a real monster right? idk if ive already asked you this but what is the best site to view the european model? right now i use Penn state ewall, but that doesnt show QPF.

Posted February 22nd at 9:17 PM
Jim in North Utica near Schuyler Line:

Ah, the dreaded dry slot..thanks a lot Matt, much appreciated. I had to laugh that I said I'll check back on Sunday night. Heck, I check in almost hourly, even when nothing is happening, lol!

Posted February 22nd at 9:34 PM
Matt Lanza:

Jim: I think we all can check in on the weather feverishly in any weather! :)

Mike: Euro QPF is golden and not available to my knowledge to us. Occasionally, they put some freebies for us on the Euro site www.ecmwf.org. But...usually not much. There's actually a European MOS product used by energy companies. You gotta pay big bucks though.

Posted February 22nd at 9:45 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

thats funny the Euro qpf is like the holy grail of the models lol, but that also sucks that we cant get it anywhere, they should make it available to everyone like the gfs.

Posted February 22nd at 9:56 PM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: The Europeans are incredibly protective of their data...and rightfully so I guess...it's probably the most advanced computer model in the world. In fact, the Euro has ensembles like the GFS, but again, you need to pay a pretty penny for it. A similar situation occurs with a hurricane model. The Florida State University Superensemble is a superior hurricane model, but has the rights to it owned by a company in North Carolina. In fact, initially, that company wasn't even going to share it with the National Hurricane Center! Obviously that was changed. But hey...when you have something good...might as well keep it limited for $$$.

Posted February 22nd at 10:05 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

very true matt, i guess i understand, but just to be sure(and to see if ECMWF has a heart, ha just kidding) i sent them an email asking for a free username and password to their site, well see but idoubt they give me one lol its worth a try!!haha

Posted February 22nd at 10:11 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

you know now that i think about it more, it does kinda seem greedy. the usa has the GFS model and we give away free data(ensembles and all) to anyone who has internet access, and the same with the CMC model(canadians). the JMA model is a little harder to find(its on wxcaster.com) and i havent seen any JMA ensembles. the Europeans however cannot even give QPF forecast out for free. im sorry i guess i just have a lot of passion for weather.

Posted February 22nd at 10:16 PM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: It's a battle we've tried to fight for a long time. Unfortunately, it usually doesn't work. I have a friend who works for a company with access to a lot of the extra Euro data. Occasionally I'll ask him for some info...but sometimes you just don't have time to do that.

Posted February 22nd at 10:32 PM
MikeD:

The minute I clicked "book it" for my airfare to Fl.I told my friends "watch we'll get a snowstorm" and I will miss out on the southern snowmobiling. Unbelievable! For 200 bucks in airfare I might just say to heck with it-i'm going riding instead.

Posted February 22nd at 11:28 PM
Cindy (Ilion):

Matt...I'm just thrilled about this snow you're talking about for Tues, but not for Fri. only because the musical for our school is Thurs., Fri., and Sat. nights. Maybe just a light snow.

Posted February 22nd at 11:39 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

the 00z euro, still looks good, but appears to ahve shifted slightly NW, idk if this is good or bad, as we may actually get heavy snow from the 00z solution compared to the 12z solution, if only we had qpf data..........ha

Posted February 23rd at 1:55 AM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: 00Z models definitely looked good. Eyeball trends today...again, don't worry about the specifics at this point (rain vs. snow vs. mix or total precip/QPF)...too early in the game for that.

Posted February 23rd at 10:57 AM
randy Vitullo:

Matt, how do I get to the models (NAM, GFS and the Euro)? You knew that........................

Posted February 23rd at 12:31 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

Randy you can get most model data from PSU E-wall.Boy the long range is only getting better everyday on the GFS.It's not to often you see a blizzard producing heavy snow in places like Orlando,Mobile and Atlanta.Just to see stuff like that on paper puts me in a good mood.

Posted February 23rd at 1:27 PM
Michael- (Dolgeville):

Snowmobiles are out in full force up this way today. Wonderful day to enjoy winter activities! Rob, that would be a treat in itself to just see the areas you mentioned get snow, even if we don't. An inch of snow in Florida or southern Georgia would put them in a State of Emergency, lol! Picture that, vehicles driving in snow without snow tires along with no snowplows on the roads, that could be disasterous. Especially trying to go up and down those bridges that come to a peak in the air and then go down like a steep hill. And then the citrus crops, OJ would be ten bucks a gallon. Yeah, snow in Florida is not good at all but we will take it up this way with arms wide open.

Posted February 23rd at 2:38 PM
ken:

i have a feeling this will be another bust of a storm.we will get sleet and freezing rain i bet.not as big of a storm for us that it will be in new england.does anyone have any more info?

Posted February 23rd at 6:16 PM
Lisa(Ilion):

Blog preety quite for an upcoming storm. Isn't anyone interested anymore?

Posted February 23rd at 9:14 PM
Lisa:

Sorry for the typo

Posted February 23rd at 9:15 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

lisa, interested but confused lol. i would say the average track is just south of the NY/pa border. this would give utica mostly snow,and binghamton a mix

Posted February 23rd at 9:21 PM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

On the models I have been checking the QPF doesnt seem all that high. I thought that this was going to be a large storm?? Is it going to be moisture starved??? NAM is only showing about .5-.75 total for the whole event.

Posted February 23rd at 9:23 PM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

Temperature sure has dropped off tonight, might get below 0 again. dropped almost 20 degrees since 5pm and we have clear skies, no wind, and fresh snow.

Posted February 23rd at 9:40 PM
Cindy (Ilion):

I think everyone is afraid to say anything as that may jinx us. I'm really hoping that this is going to be a great storm, but a little too afraid right now to get too excited about it as we know what has happened with all the others. A wonderful surprise of a great snow maker would be awesone!!!

Posted February 23rd at 9:49 PM
Bill Kardas:

The string of wet weather may not necessarily come to and end today. Though Rome hasn't reported any snow showers, the radar is showing some light activity to the west. If a flake flies in Rome, the streak continues...

Posted February 23rd at 9:55 PM
Dom-Tech:

Sorry, Please bring on spring, My bike needs to ride also!!!

Posted February 23rd at 9:59 PM
Bill Kardas:

As for Tuesday's storm, it's too early to start number crunching. The models are trending towards an all snow event at this point, but I've seen things go from all snow to ice in no time several times this year. Trying to forecast an exact storm track is very difficult beyong 48 hours. We'll have more details on it tomorrow.

Posted February 23rd at 10:00 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

if the storm ends up cutting deeper into the south, then turning north(say it makes it down into tennesee),we will A)have a better chance at all snow, and B)there will probably be high QPF. if the storm ends up like the NAM is saying now, it will basically be a "glorified clipper" with 3-6 inches of snow(maybe some mix), but its way too early to make a call.

Posted February 23rd at 10:03 PM
vinny(utica):

jeff,i think new england is going to get pounded.the storm is going to slow down and hit new england hard.although still early in the game and anything can happened.bill,what is your thoughts on the storm?

Posted February 23rd at 10:03 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

vinny, i certainly agree with you on that. however the new 21z SREF models are just in and i believe they are showing signs of slowing this low down faster, and deepening it rapidly enough(far enough south) to get BGM and utica in the deformation zone, of very heavy precipitaion. one of the main things that could inhibit snowfall, are the surface temps. as we are heading into late february it is going to become increasingly hard for snow to accumulate during the day; and the latest models are indicating surface temps of 32-35 degrees when this deformation zone is over us, if it were truly over us, id expect some evap cooling so temps would probably range from 30 on hilltops to 33 valleys, but even so it may be hard for snow to accumulate at those temps during the afternoon.

Posted February 23rd at 10:21 PM
Bill Kardas:

Vinny,

I have no faith in all the model runs I've seen today. I don't understand why the models aren't showing some sort of distinct secondary development along the Atlantic coast. The GFS does show a secondary low, but that's after the parent storm passes right over us. By using classic textbook standards, a secondary low pressure center should develop near or around NYC/Long Island at some point as this storm moves through. That would be critical in the placement of heavy snow. I'm hoping tomorrow's model runs to a better job of resolving this.

Posted February 23rd at 10:21 PM
Bill Kardas:

So with that said, you can see why we aren't ready to talk about snow totals. We don't have a good picture of how the large scale features will work out yet and that makes it nearly impossible to number crunch.

Posted February 23rd at 10:23 PM
mike m (binghamton):

bill, like i said above check out the latest SREFS on Penn state ewall, they are deffinetly coming around to low development near nyc.

Posted February 23rd at 10:23 PM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

mike, wheere do you see the NAM showing a glorifi3ed clipper? The QPF for the event shows a general .75-1.0 amount for the whole area. That is up from the 18z runs. That is a pretty good amount if ratios are standard. Or am I just reading the maps all wrong?????

Posted February 23rd at 10:33 PM
stevo (rome):

snowing here in rome. very lightly though,but not light enogh to be considered a flurry. ill say a light snow sower.

Posted February 23rd at 10:55 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

jeff, idk when i look at the 00z NAM 48hr precipitation at 84hrs(storm total QPF) im only seeing about .4 for utica, with higher amounts, above .5 north of utica across the dacks, and a thing stripe of above .5 qpf just south of BGM, across NE PA. also if you want a closer look, the WRF close up of NY is based directly on the NAM.

Posted February 23rd at 11:00 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

GFS looks rather healthy.That would drop a fresh 6-10".

Posted February 23rd at 11:13 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

jeff, maybe you were looking at the paralell NAM? because that does give Central NY .75-1.25 inches of qpf. and if you want to see what that translates into snowfall check it out here: ill warn you this could cause over excitement,and in extreme cases temporary blindness lol!!! http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS1_NAM212-PARA_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW-KUCHERA_84HR.gif

Posted February 23rd at 11:18 PM
Matt Lanza:

Like Bill said, it is still way too early to get specific. Don't worry about QPF, snow forecasts, etc. Remember the December storm? At this point this far out, the model forecasts were 20-40". We got 10". QPF on the models is the absolute worst thing they forecast. Trying to make guesses on anything this far out would be a mental waste of time. Now, when 00Z tomorrow night comes in and all the players are on the field, we can start hypothesizing snow ranges, mix situations, etc. But take absolutely nothing verbatum at this point.

Posted February 23rd at 11:25 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

matt, dont worry i understand, i just like to look at the snowfall models, just to see the possibilities. i have one question for you; what is the difference in the NAM, and the Paralell NAM,what did they chnge? because they are almost at completely different ends of the spectrum. the regular NAM is the dryest, well the paralell is the wettest. which one do you trust more?

Posted February 23rd at 11:38 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

Yeah I remember watching the models with the Dec. storm.It felt like weeks before the storm actually came.That first run was amazing as I think it was even spitting out close to 50-60" towards SYR.

Posted February 23rd at 11:39 PM
Mel (Westernville):

Snowing pretty good here now - all the way from verona through rome to westernville.

Posted February 23rd at 11:42 PM
vinny(utica):

mike i hope your right,but like bill and matt said way to early in the game.we have seen things change in a short period of time.that being said im sure we all will agree we are definately due to get clobbered.will it be this one.we will see.

Posted February 23rd at 11:42 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

I have a steady light snow here under clear skies.I can see the moon and even the stars.No clouds..??

Posted February 23rd at 11:50 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

vinny, like Rob alluded to above; did the december storm drop 50 inches in syracuse, NO it did not, but did it have the potential to, yes it did other wise the models wouldnt indicate it. what im getting at is the paralell NAM sure would be nice(widespread 12"+ amounts) but for NOW there is only a small chance of it verifying, we must continue to watch the trends. and speaking of trends, the latest CMC has shifted SE of its 12z position, from near state college PA, to near allentown PA. that is a good sign.

Posted February 23rd at 11:50 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

ecmwf model looks good, brings the storm just abit further south than the gfs i believe. the cmc looks good, but not overly strong. i think we are seeing the models come to a consensus on a track, somewhere south of the NY/pa border,and most bring it a lot further south across PA, then up the coast

Posted February 24th at 2:13 AM
Matt (CB):

Camped out last nigth.Brrrr Temp was in low teens most of the night under clear skies.
As for the upcoming storm,I'll take the clipper with 3-6.Glad to see that everyone is finally realizing that more than 24 hrs out is too impossible to predict exact amounts.
The snowmobiling in this area is great by the sound of it.Heard them running all night as the trail boarders my property.

Posted February 24th at 8:51 AM
Matt Lanza:

Mike: Both the NAM and parallel NAM are equally trustworthy at this juncture. The NAM has, for the most part, been a disaster this year. The parallel NAM was the NAM tweaked to help fix some of the problems. But it's way too early to know how it's doing.

That said, all of the 00Z runs last night, from an eyeball standpoint, suggest a period of mixing is still quite likely...especially at the height of the storm. This thing is definitely in a better position than it was 3-4 days ago, but it needs to drop south further. Even the 00Z Euro implies a mix, with a low track near Albany...way too close.

Posted February 24th at 9:45 AM
Jeff (Southern Hills):

Good morning! That storm system is something. Looks like a little hurricane just off the coast of CA. They said this morning the pressure is down to 976 mb. It has an amazing little circulation to it right now!

Posted February 24th at 10:31 AM
mike m ( binghamton):

matt, well lets hope the paralell NAM is right because it looks to bring CNY the most snow as of right now. unfortunetly the models really havent shifted south at all over the past 24hrs, if anything slightly north(ECMWF).hopefully well see that southward shift later today.

Posted February 24th at 12:17 PM
vinny(utica):

mike,i did not suggest that you were wrong last night when i wrote it is to early,in fact i always like to here your input because i think you will be a great meterologist.i just meant the way all these storms have been going and not in our favor,i am trying to use reverse pshycology.lol.please keep us updated.thanks.

Posted February 24th at 1:09 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

vinny, no i understand. and thanks i hope ill make a good meteorologist; and trust me i am still learning a lot...as for the storm i think Utica might make out terrible with this one;all rain {reverse pshycology}lol ;) . really though,right now id say it will be a snow to a brief period of sleet/rain tuesday afternoon, to more moderate to hvy snow tuesday evening and night. this is going to be a true "spring storm" as elevation will be a factor, so unfortunetly the mohawk valley is still questionable. all we need is for this storm to track about 80 miles further SE than what the gfs is saying and were golden, so wacth for that shift.

Posted February 24th at 1:26 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

euro is in , and it looks good. the best thing about the euro is the fact that it tracks it across southern kentucky,instead of southern indiana/ohio like the gfs. the euro then swings it north quickly to a position just east of ALbany. im not sure if this would stop all mixxing, but i do believe we'd get into good wrap around snow.

Posted February 24th at 1:38 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

The only thing that scares me about this is when the NAM starts bringing that 850 line to the north,it always trended warmer the next couple of runs.But with the global models in decent agreement I hope that won't be the case.Backside looks good so I think we'll all see at least a moderate snowfall.If not... well then I just give up!

Posted February 24th at 1:52 PM
Matt Lanza:

Couple things. First, gorgeous day today across the Lakes and East. First time in a long time we've been able to take a large scale snapshot of things. Here's a visible satellite shot. Notice that Lake Erie has a ton of ice. Significant LES is all but done off that lake. Georgian Bay is tough to tell, but it appears to at least have some ice on it. But regardless, a very "pretty" shot today.

Regarding the Tues/Wed storm...a couple of thoughts I've just organized.....

I'm big on seasonal trends...I've noticed it with LES and other systems. Let's think about this for a second.

Even the Friday event, a cold one, still managed to sneak a few snow grains or ice pellets in as far north as the BGM area. No storm this winter, aside from a passing clipper or weak system, has been 100% snow here. Given that the antecedent air mass is mild (low to mid 30s or milder in some cases Monday) and with the current model prognostications, there is almost no chance this is an all snow event.

Second... Dry slots have been an issue in every storm this winter. There will be dry slotting issues with this one. I have a feeling this will make it up to the Thruway. I don't think we see the mega dry slot that we saw back in December, but judging from both the NAM and GFS already picking up on it, it will only look stronger with time (models have played catch up on these things all winter).

The front end of this storm may not be memorable. The only encouraging thing I see on the 12Z models is the back end potential. The NAM and GFS all pointing toward a good deformation zone of sorts over CNY. Vertical velocities (rising air) on the back side at 700 mb level are very impressive on the NAM

Despite that "unmemorable" idea for the front end, there is a large amount of lift between 18 and 00Z pre-dry slot. I would not be at all shocked to see heavy wet snow/sleet/rain potential here.

So right now, I'm pinning my hopes on the backside for hopefully a backlash snow event. Like I said above... 00Z will tell us a lot. As will tomorrow morning's 12Z. Then we can get cute with predictions.

Posted February 24th at 2:37 PM
Mike(Leonardsville):

Might as well make a snowmap of 4-6 inches with mixing and rain since 99% of the storms have been like this.

Posted February 24th at 3:25 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

NAM, continues to warm up. it now brings all of cny into the warm sector with the low track over or just to the west of BGM and utica, not a good sign to say the least.

Posted February 24th at 3:34 PM
Tim (Old Forge):

Is mixing a good bet for the ADK's as well or will it stay mostly snow there??

Posted February 24th at 4:16 PM
Bill Kardas:

I agree with Matt. I think there are a lot of things to overcome at this point in order to get a heavy snowfall. The dry slot potential concerns me the most. I'm still not comfortable with how the models develop that secondary low. At least today the models are showing one, but it's still weaker than what it would normally be given the setup.

Posted February 24th at 4:42 PM
Mike S (Port Leyden):

I've noticed some seasonal changes to. We're now averaging temperatures in the 20's-30's, compared to being 0's-10's a few weeks back. Also the run is scheduled to rise at 6:48 tomorrow morning!

For the last few days it's been awful sunny. Hopefully that means the end of the cloudy season!

Posted February 24th at 4:44 PM
Rob(whitesboro):

I'm guessing the NAM would be the model of choice as we're within 36 hrs of the storm.But it certainly is an outliar.And a scary outliar.Any other model would bring us all snow with a very brief period of sleet or rain.

Posted February 24th at 5:18 PM
Bill Kardas:

Mike,

I was thinking about that today. The higher sun angle certainly helps a lot. If this was December or January, those clouds would have lingered several hours longer.

Posted February 24th at 5:24 PM
Bill Kardas:

The 18z NAM seems to make the most sense out of all this so far in handling how the system will evolve. This one has the strongest secondary low, but still keeps the parent storm very strong.

Posted February 24th at 5:27 PM
jon:

is this track set in stone or can it go back in our favor?any idea on wsw going out?

Posted February 24th at 6:58 PM
mike m ( binghamton):

bill, yea it has a 982 low directly on top of utica. i think it surges the warm air in to quickly. i think a blend of the GFS,NAM, and Euro makes the most sense...let me elaborate. i think the southern low track will prevail(euro) across southern kentucky instead of central indiana. then from the gfs we get the secondary low placement, near poughkeepsie NY, to springfield mass. then from the NAM,we get the strength, proabably 982-986mb. that is just my opinion, well see what the models say.

Posted February 24th at 7:26 PM
Bill Kardas:

Alright...working on a new entry. Check back soon.

Posted February 24th at 9:14 PM
jeff:

Anticipation really stinks when you are hoping for a good storm

Posted February 24th at 9:46 PM
Cindy (Ilion):

It truly amazes me that we can have storm after storm come through and pretty much end up with the "same" storm every time.

Posted February 24th at 9:48 PM
Jeff:

Matt,
This blog is working fine from my house, must have a problem @ my office computer

Posted February 24th at 9:49 PM
Howard marsh:

It has nothing to do with the weather but would you pass on to who is responsible for the music that swings up and down.I refer to law and order not only swinging up and down but so loud you can't hear the conversatiom in progress.This is not the only program [sickening].
Now the weather I am personally tired of the cold weather and suggest you figue out a way to please the populace like maybe in the high fortys or fifties.
Yeh I know the weather is unpredicable. It is a help to have advance advise on the weather such as you put forth good effort But like old lieing Lisle you can't be wrong all the time.
I wouldn't mention the music bit but not sure who is responsible I just know we are disgusted with it blaring out the speaker's word
Being this is my first try sending a message to you hope it works and hope you will pass the complaint to the proper source.

Posted March 24th at 7:39 PM
Howard Marsh:

Today was ideal we could use a bit mor rain after the memorial day parades. Sew what you can do about this. Oh I am glad the Indian give away has slowed somewhat. I think it time for the state to legalize gambling all over the entire state.I don’t like the situation it could bring but it sure could lower the playing field. The Indains are such succesful entrepateurs maybe we should turn the state government over to them to run. Naw I think they are no different then the rest of us native born prople and that they should pay taxes and that would help level the play field. Love the warm days mowing grass and garden work pulling weeds all in a summer’s happening. We can sure use a little more rain.

Posted May 24th at 5:01 PM
H Marsh:

Love the warm sun.Spring can’t come soon enough.

Posted March 16th at 3:46 PM

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